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Recent config and table (for firmware 1.0.73) at the bottom of the page. Checking ignadv consistency
with (InputTrigger/ShortGapTrigger) InputTrigger/SubaruTrigger :
- I downloaded the config from one subaru
- uploaded to another
- and the ign advance is off.
- Was the ignadv OK on the previous controller ?
I was out mapping the car last night, and the advance is indeed off:
- strobed at 10degrees, so this is right
- if I write 40 degrees in the field (which field?) it changes only +15 crankdegree (to 25 BTDC), not +30 crankdegree (to 40 deg BTDC) as it should
- do you measure on the crank ? on the cam, every angle is half
This way earliest is 37.5 crankdegrees BTDC (max commanded ignadv is 63.75 degrees.
Moving thread to MembersPage/SkassaTriggerSubaru where it belongs.
This is taking from the best and very helpful [VEMS FORUM]
I also would like to know as there is trigger errors when cranking, and the wiring is OK
- and i cant seem to find any info, regarding the "advanced filtering" settings, if that maybe can help filtering that out
- GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges, (toothrel_normal and toothrel_missing ) multitooth advanced filtering so thresholds can be set for what is considered as long-gap, and what is short.
- car will sometimes backfire when cranking
- the "crank minimum usec" shouldn't cause that (you can set it to 370 usec, that is 20 degrees at 9000RPM, or you can even try 0). If it's too high, high-RPM triggerinput will not be believed
Link to some info to how ms extra does subaru, can any of you see what the vems is missing to filter the noise, if this ms extra setup works, interesting that the trigger on raising egde
http://www.msextra.com/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Subaru.htm
Another link with a sulution to ms setup with the exact same symtems as i got when cranking.
http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=28092
D.28/4-2008
There seems to be an error in the firmware,when running the subaru trigger, with 1.0.73 firmware,
we were having some trooble with getting the trigger working right,
we then uploaded the config again, and measured both the input and output with a scop, and the ignition was working right,and the turned on the fuelpump EC36-Pin15 p259CH5, and as soon this was done, bith the trigger input and the output, was all wrong, with random ignition firing.
It did not go right again, if the pump was turned of, so have to upload the config again, we then moved the fuelpump output to EC36- PIN 18 inj5, and it started right away.
D19/4-2008 I have tried the logiclevel outputs, and it´s cant drive the Subaru ignitor, so i have a friend, that will make this for me tommorrow , to try, if no other suggestions,
I know i can use the stepper output, but as this setup also is going to be used on the Impreza my99-00, were the stepper output is needed to drive the stepper, this will not be used,.
please rewiew and comment.
If the input of the coil pulls down (likely), this could work.
Isn't it easier to use an external SN754410NE (stepper) chip ? Only 1 component instead of 4x3.
D.20/4-2008.we tried to make this work today, but when it was all mounted, and not working, we measured , that there is no output signal comming from the 74HC259 chip, and the supply power is working,
any suggestions to why that is?//Skassa
D.15/4-2008
I have now a trigger signal ,and is ready to set the ignition output,
the car have cop´s, and a external ignitor, but how to i run this setup,
Do i run this as duel setup ,and wastedspark, or du You think it can be run fully sequentiel (need a spelling course).
Hi All,
Could someone please check the trigger,injector, and ignition settings, for the Subaru 6/7 trigger, to check if this can work,it´s running oe cops, so it would be great if it could run fully sequ...(cant spell that),wasted spark would also be fine!
the firing order of a Subaru is 1-3-2-4
Config
primep_temp_scaling=0D
cwl=46
cwh=1E
cranking_thres=04
awev=32
awev_temp_scaling=1A
awec=C0
warmup_clt_range[0]=00
warmup_clt_range[1]=0C
warmup_clt_range[2]=1E
warmup_clt_range[3]=31
warmup_clt_range[4]=4F
warmup_clt_range[5]=65
warmup_clt_range[6]=79
warmup_clt_range[7]=8C
warmup_clt_range[8]=A9
warmup_clt_range[9]=C8
warmup_clt[0]=B4
warmup_clt[1]=B4
warmup_clt[2]=B4
warmup_clt[3]=A0
warmup_clt[4]=8C
warmup_clt[5]=87
warmup_clt[6]=7D
warmup_clt[7]=6E
warmup_clt[8]=69
warmup_clt[9]=66
warmup_rpm_scale=BF
req_fuel=46
divider=01
alternate=13
injopen=00
battfac=13
kpafac=6E
kpaoffs=37
injocfuel=2A
injrampup_battfac=FF
injpwm=FF
injpwmt=FF
als_launch_input=CC
rpmk[0]=0B
rpmk[1]=B8
tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00
tpsdotrate[0]=02
tpsdotrate[1]=05
tpsdotrate[2]=14
tpsdotrate[3]=28
tpsaq[0]=02
tpsaq[1]=07
tpsaq[2]=0A
tpsaq[3]=14
als_cut_mintps=FF
tpsasync=02
acmult=C8
tpsacold=96
launch_enrich=00
launch_retard=00
overrun_fuelcut=0F
overrun_fuelresume=0F
rev_limit=49
airden_ignore=5A
config11=31
config12=40
config13=06
batt_cal=C6
fastidle=C6
als_max_cut=00
dbaro=0C
tps_low=E9
tps_high=32
fan_temp=F3
fan_hyst=04
fan_channel=40
iac_step_seq=C9
iac_conf=78
iac_max_steps=FF
iac_tps_thres=05
iac_cold_idle_temp=A2
iac_warm_idle_temp=AB
iac_cold_rpm=8C
iac_warm_rpm=55
iac_cold_start_pos=CC
iac_warm_start_pos=CC
iac_afterstart_rpm=1E
iac_afterstart_duration=50
iac_speed=00
iac_kp=6E
iac_ki=0F
iac_kd=05
launch_rpm=14
iac_integral_limit_dec=32
iac_integral_limit_inc=A0
iac_integral_deadband=05
iac_deadband=0A
als_cut_maxtps=00
iac_overclose_interval=02
iac_ref_pos[0]=CC
iac_ref_pos[1]=CC
iac_ref_pos[2]=CC
iac_ref_pos[3]=C2
iac_ref_pos[4]=BF
iac_ref_pos[5]=BF
iac_ref_pos[6]=BF
iac_ref_pos[7]=BF
iac_ref_pos[8]=BF
iac_ref_pos[9]=BF
iac_sol_channel=60
iac_ign_slope=14
softrpm_range=32
iac_ign_advance_limit=14
iac_ign_retard_limit=14
iac_ign_threshold=04
ego_conf=06
ego_lag=02
ego_coolant=B4
ego_maxtps=E6
ego_maxmap=96
ego_minrpm=07
ego_maxrpm=50
ego_warmup=3C
ego_lean_limit=33
ego_rich_limit=1A
ego_pid_kp=28
als_enrich=00
ego_delta=08
ego_target=19
ego_pid_window=FF
wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0
als_react_tps=00
wbo2_abs_limit=E4
wbo2_limit_maxt=A0
wbo2_fallback=B0
wbo2_retry_t=06
wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA
wbo2_edgetime_min=50
wbo2_ri_target=96
wbo2_nernstdc_target=89
wbo2_pump_pw_zero=65
wbo2_calibration=BE
wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46
wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10
wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A
wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80
wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15
wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E
wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00
wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84
wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80
knock_conf=01
knock_sampling_window=F3
knock1_frequency=26
knock1_gain=00
knock1_integrator=0F
knock2_frequency=29
knock2_gain=3F
knock2_integrator=1F
knock_threshold=FF
knock_noise_scale=FF
knock_max_retard=00
knock_default_retard=00
knock_retard_step=00
knock_retard_delay=00
knock_advance_step=00
knock_advance_delay=00
knock_minrpm=FF
knock_maxrpm=FF
ve_learn_coolant=D8
ve_learn_max_power=FF
ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E
ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E
ve_learn_ego_scale=43
ve_learn_min_weight=4D
ve_learn_speed=FF
ve_learn_limit=33
ve_learn_conf=00
lcd_c0=FE
lcd_delay=FF
lcd_backlight=FF
kpa_conf=21
ign_balance=00
als_retard_mintps=FF
als_retard_maxtps=00
lcd_default_view=00
primary_trigger=29
secondary_trigger=59
tooth_wheel=02
trigger_tooth=00
another_trigger_tooth=03
crank_minper=BC
tooth_wheel_twidth1=00
tooth_wheel_twidth2=00
cam_sync_r_edge_phase=00
cam_sync_f_edge_phase=00
reset_engphase_after=04
ign_tdcdelay=88
ign_dwell14=2F
ign_dwell6=38
ign_crank_advance=20
ign_out=72
ignchmax=01
engine_off_delay=04
pump_on_mintime=04
fuelpump_channel=50
inj_stage2_rate=FF
inj_stage2_start_tps=FF
inj_stage2_start_map=FF
als_deact_rpm=FF
als_deact_time=01
als_deact_egt=00
als_retard=00
als_rev_limit=40
misc1out_minrpm=00
misc1out_maxrpm=46
misc1out_mintps=00
misc1out_maxtps=B3
misc1out_minmap=00
misc1out_maxmap=82
misc1out_channel=07
misc2out_minrpm=FF
misc2out_maxrpm=FF
misc2out_mintps=FF
misc2out_maxtps=FF
misc2out_minmap=FF
misc2out_maxmap=FF
misc2out_channel=FF
act_wot_rpm=FF
act_wot_channel=FF
act_rpm_rpm=FF
act_rpm_channel=FF
egt1_cal=47
als_tks_channel=FF
boost_conf=ED
boost_targetoffs=00
boost_minpressure=41
boost_pid_kp=20
boost_pid_ki=80
boost_pid_kd=01
boost_pid_ilimit=FF
boost_channel=4F
water_pump_temp=00
hybrid_rpm_a=00
hybrid_rpm_m=00
water_pump_hyst=00
water_pump_channel=76
toothrel_normal=01
toothrel_missing=F0
fuelcut_min_kpa=14
fuelcut_max_kpa=E6
tach_channel=17
tach_div=10
shiftcut_conf=01
shiftcut_channel=FF
shiftcut_time=00
softrpm_rpm=4B
TABLE
j[0]=1380 1280 0F80 0C80 1380 1680 1880 1D80 1E80 2180 2480 2880
j[1]=1780 1680 1380 1180 1480 1A80 1D80 1F80 2280 2880 2E80 3280
j[2]=2080 1A80 1B80 1E80 2180 2280 2480 2880 2D80 3180 3A80 3F80
j[3]=2B80 2B80 2D80 2F80 3080 3080 3280 3680 3E80 4280 4880 4B80
j[4]=4080 3F80 4080 4280 4380 4480 4580 4780 4D80 5580 5D80 6480
j[5]=4C80 4E80 4F80 5080 4E80 4D80 4F80 5380 5980 6280 6D80 7580
j[6]=5980 5B80 5B80 5D80 5D80 5F80 6180 6380 6B80 7580 7E80 8780
j[7]=7780 7A80 8080 8580 8880 8C80 8F80 9280 9680 9A80 A180 A680
j[8]=8E80 9080 9480 A180 A980 AC80 B180 B480 B880 BA80 BB80 B980
j[9]=A780 AD80 B780 C680 D180 D680 DC80 DE80 DD80 D480 D080 CA80
j[A]=B480 B880 BF80 CB80 D380 D980 E180 E080 DF80 D980 D480 D080
j[B]=B480 B980 BE80 CA80 D380 D980 DB80 DD80 DD80 D780 D580 D080
l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[1]=37 37 37 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 31
l[2]=37 37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 31 31 31 31 31
l[3]=37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 31 37 37 37 37 37
l[4]=37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 2C 37 37 37 37 37
l[5]=37 37 31 31 31 31 31 37 47 55 58 58
l[6]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 4F 4F 55 55 55
l[7]=5C 5C 66 66 66 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C
l[8]=5C 5C 5C 63 66 70 78 78 78 78 81 87
l[9]=6B 6B 6B 6B 78 78 78 81 81 87 8A 8D
l[A]=6B 6B 6B 78 78 81 81 81 81 87 87 8D
l[B]=78 78 78 78 78 81 81 87 87 8A 8D 8D
n[0]=00 3C 3C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C
n[1]=64 3C 58 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[2]=64 30 64 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[3]=64 64 8C F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[4]=50 50 A0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[5]=64 64 DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC
n[6]=64 78 A0 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8
n[7]=64 8C 8C B4 B4 B4 A8 A8 A8 A8 B4 B4
n[8]=58 68 A0 B4 B4 A0 8C 88 90 A0 A0 A0
n[9]=50 50 8C 98 8C 84 74 74 78 8C 8C 8C
n[A]=3C 3C 50 78 78 6C 68 68 70 7C 80 84
n[B]=28 30 50 64 58 58 58 5C 70 78 80 80
k[0]=1E 28 32 41 50 5A 64 82 96 B4 D2 E6
r[0]=07 0A 11 17 1E 25 2B 30 37 3E 43 49
h[0]=02 04 01 08 10 20 40 80
h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
h[2]=68 48 30 00 00 00 00 00
b[0]=28 37 46 5A 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 64
t[0]=66 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF