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d.9/7-2008
recent config and tableat the bottum of the page.
Is there someone that can check what the problem can be, so i can get the advance corrected ???.
Firmware 1.0.73.
d.4/7-2008
this is a q about the subaru trigger, were i have dwonloaded the config from one subaru to another, and the ign advance is off.
This is taking from the best and very helpfull VEMS FORUM.
I was out mapping the car last night, and the advance is indeed of, as it i strobed it at 10degrees, so this is right, if i write 40 degrees in the field the this will be 10degrees that´s fixed + half of the rest, that is 40degrees- 10degrees = 30 degrees, then half of that =15degrees+the 10 fixed , so this will be 25degrees advance in total,
It��s a bit of trooble to map, and i can only get 37.5degrees , as the max that can be written is 63degrees.
It��s not working on the other Subaru , the advance is off.
So Subaru trigger setup , is NOT working
Link to the full thread:
http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=480.15
I also would like to know as there is trigger errors when cranking, and the wiring is okay, and i cant seem to find any info, regardng the "advanced filtering" settings, if that maybe can help filtering that out, that car will sometimes backfire when cranking,and can the "crank minimum usec" have anything to do with that, what will it do if the number is upped, or number lowered?
Link to some info to how ms extra does subaru, can any of you see what the vems is missing to filter the noise, if this ms extra setup works, interesting that the trigger on raising egde
http://www.msextra.com/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Subaru.htm
Another link with a sulution to ms setup with the exact same symtems as i got when cranking.
http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=28092
Were can i put a variabel resistor in to to make this work on the Vems?
Regards,
Skassa
D.28/4-2008
There seems to be an error in the firmware,when running the subaru trigger, with 1.0.73 firmware,
we were having some trooble with getting the trigger working right,
we then uploaded the config again, and measured both the input and output with a scop, and the ignition was working right,and the turned on the fuelpump EC36-Pin15 p259CH5, and as soon this was done, bith the trigger input and the output, was all wrong, with random ignition firing.
It did not go right again, if the pump was turned of, so have to upload the config again, we then moved the fuelpump output to EC36- PIN 18 inj5, and it started right away.
D19/4-2008 I have tried the logiclevel outputs, and it´s cant drive the Subaru ignitor, so i have a friend, that will make this for me tommorrow , to try, if no other suggestions,
I know i can use the stepper output, but as this setup also is going to be used on the Impreza my99-00, were the stepper output is needed to drive the stepper, this will not be used,.
please rewiew and comment.
If the input of the coil pulls down (likely), this could work.
Isn't it easier to use an external SN754410NE (stepper) chip ? Only 1 component instead of 4x3.
D.20/4-2008.we tried to make this work today, but when it was all mounted, and not working, we measured , that there is no output signal comming from the 74HC259 chip, and the supply power is working,
any suggestions to why that is?//Skassa
D.15/4-2008
I have now a trigger signal ,and is ready to set the ignition output,
the car have cop´s, and a external ignitor, but how to i run this setup,
Do i run this as duel setup ,and wastedspark, or du You think it can be run fully sequentiel (need a spelling course).
Hi All,
Could someone please check the trigger,injector, and ignition settings, for the Subaru 6/7 trigger, to check if this can work,it´s running oe cops, so it would be great if it could run fully sequ...(cant spell that),wasted spark would also be fine!
the firing order of a Subaru is 1-3-2-4
primep_temp_scaling=0D
cwl=46
cwh=1E
cranking_thres=04
awev=32
awev_temp_scaling=1A
awec=C0
warmup_clt_range[0]=00
warmup_clt_range[1]=0C
warmup_clt_range[2]=1E
warmup_clt_range[3]=31
warmup_clt_range[4]=4F
warmup_clt_range[5]=65
warmup_clt_range[6]=79
warmup_clt_range[7]=8C
warmup_clt_range[8]=A9
warmup_clt_range[9]=C8
warmup_clt[0]=B4
warmup_clt[1]=B4
warmup_clt[2]=B4
warmup_clt[3]=A0
warmup_clt[4]=8C
warmup_clt[5]=87
warmup_clt[6]=7D
warmup_clt[7]=6E
warmup_clt[8]=69
warmup_clt[9]=66
warmup_rpm_scale=BF
req_fuel=46
divider=01
alternate=13
injopen=00
battfac=13
kpafac=6E
kpaoffs=37
injocfuel=2A
injrampup_battfac=FF
injpwm=FF
injpwmt=FF
als_launch_input=CC
rpmk[0]=0B
rpmk[1]=B8
tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00
tpsdotrate[0]=02
tpsdotrate[1]=05
tpsdotrate[2]=14
tpsdotrate[3]=28
tpsaq[0]=02
tpsaq[1]=07
tpsaq[2]=0A
tpsaq[3]=14
als_cut_mintps=FF
tpsasync=02
acmult=C8
tpsacold=96
launch_enrich=00
launch_retard=00
overrun_fuelcut=0F
overrun_fuelresume=0F
rev_limit=49
airden_ignore=5A
config11=31
config12=40
config13=06
batt_cal=C6
fastidle=C6
als_max_cut=00
dbaro=0C
tps_low=E9
tps_high=32
fan_temp=F3
fan_hyst=04
fan_channel=40
iac_step_seq=C9
iac_conf=78
iac_max_steps=FF
iac_tps_thres=05
iac_cold_idle_temp=A2
iac_warm_idle_temp=AB
iac_cold_rpm=8C
iac_warm_rpm=55
iac_cold_start_pos=CC
iac_warm_start_pos=CC
iac_afterstart_rpm=1E
iac_afterstart_duration=50
iac_speed=00
iac_kp=6E
iac_ki=0F
iac_kd=05
launch_rpm=14
iac_integral_limit_dec=32
iac_integral_limit_inc=A0
iac_integral_deadband=05
iac_deadband=0A
als_cut_maxtps=00
iac_overclose_interval=02
iac_ref_pos[0]=CC
iac_ref_pos[1]=CC
iac_ref_pos[2]=CC
iac_ref_pos[3]=C2
iac_ref_pos[4]=BF
iac_ref_pos[5]=BF
iac_ref_pos[6]=BF
iac_ref_pos[7]=BF
iac_ref_pos[8]=BF
iac_ref_pos[9]=BF
iac_sol_channel=60
iac_ign_slope=14
softrpm_range=32
iac_ign_advance_limit=14
iac_ign_retard_limit=14
iac_ign_threshold=04
ego_conf=06
ego_lag=02
ego_coolant=B4
ego_maxtps=E6
ego_maxmap=96
ego_minrpm=07
ego_maxrpm=50
ego_warmup=3C
ego_lean_limit=33
ego_rich_limit=1A
ego_pid_kp=28
als_enrich=00
ego_delta=08
ego_target=19
ego_pid_window=FF
wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0
als_react_tps=00
wbo2_abs_limit=E4
wbo2_limit_maxt=A0
wbo2_fallback=B0
wbo2_retry_t=06
wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA
wbo2_edgetime_min=50
wbo2_ri_target=96
wbo2_nernstdc_target=89
wbo2_pump_pw_zero=65
wbo2_calibration=BE
wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46
wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10
wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A
wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80
wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15
wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E
wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00
wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84
wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80
knock_conf=01
knock_sampling_window=F3
knock1_frequency=26
knock1_gain=00
knock1_integrator=0F
knock2_frequency=29
knock2_gain=3F
knock2_integrator=1F
knock_threshold=FF
knock_noise_scale=FF
knock_max_retard=00
knock_default_retard=00
knock_retard_step=00
knock_retard_delay=00
knock_advance_step=00
knock_advance_delay=00
knock_minrpm=FF
knock_maxrpm=FF
ve_learn_coolant=D8
ve_learn_max_power=FF
ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E
ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E
ve_learn_ego_scale=43
ve_learn_min_weight=4D
ve_learn_speed=FF
ve_learn_limit=33
ve_learn_conf=00
lcd_c0=FE
lcd_delay=FF
lcd_backlight=FF
kpa_conf=21
ign_balance=00
als_retard_mintps=FF
als_retard_maxtps=00
lcd_default_view=00
primary_trigger=29
secondary_trigger=59
tooth_wheel=02
trigger_tooth=00
another_trigger_tooth=03
crank_minper=BC
tooth_wheel_twidth1=00
tooth_wheel_twidth2=00
cam_sync_r_edge_phase=00
cam_sync_f_edge_phase=00
reset_engphase_after=04
ign_tdcdelay=88
ign_dwell14=2F
ign_dwell6=38
ign_crank_advance=20
ign_out=72
ignchmax=01
engine_off_delay=04
pump_on_mintime=04
fuelpump_channel=50
inj_stage2_rate=FF
inj_stage2_start_tps=FF
inj_stage2_start_map=FF
als_deact_rpm=FF
als_deact_time=01
als_deact_egt=00
als_retard=00
als_rev_limit=40
misc1out_minrpm=00
misc1out_maxrpm=46
misc1out_mintps=00
misc1out_maxtps=B3
misc1out_minmap=00
misc1out_maxmap=82
misc1out_channel=07
misc2out_minrpm=FF
misc2out_maxrpm=FF
misc2out_mintps=FF
misc2out_maxtps=FF
misc2out_minmap=FF
misc2out_maxmap=FF
misc2out_channel=FF
act_wot_rpm=FF
act_wot_channel=FF
act_rpm_rpm=FF
act_rpm_channel=FF
egt1_cal=47
als_tks_channel=FF
boost_conf=ED
boost_targetoffs=00
boost_minpressure=41
boost_pid_kp=20
boost_pid_ki=80
boost_pid_kd=01
boost_pid_ilimit=FF
boost_channel=4F
water_pump_temp=00
hybrid_rpm_a=00
hybrid_rpm_m=00
water_pump_hyst=00
water_pump_channel=76
toothrel_normal=01
toothrel_missing=F0
fuelcut_min_kpa=14
fuelcut_max_kpa=E6
tach_channel=17
tach_div=10
shiftcut_conf=01
shiftcut_channel=FF
shiftcut_time=00
softrpm_rpm=4B
TABLE
j[0]=1380 1280 0F80 0C80 1380 1680 1880 1D80 1E80 2180 2480 2880
j[1]=1780 1680 1380 1180 1480 1A80 1D80 1F80 2280 2880 2E80 3280
j[2]=2080 1A80 1B80 1E80 2180 2280 2480 2880 2D80 3180 3A80 3F80
j[3]=2B80 2B80 2D80 2F80 3080 3080 3280 3680 3E80 4280 4880 4B80
j[4]=4080 3F80 4080 4280 4380 4480 4580 4780 4D80 5580 5D80 6480
j[5]=4C80 4E80 4F80 5080 4E80 4D80 4F80 5380 5980 6280 6D80 7580
j[6]=5980 5B80 5B80 5D80 5D80 5F80 6180 6380 6B80 7580 7E80 8780
j[7]=7780 7A80 8080 8580 8880 8C80 8F80 9280 9680 9A80 A180 A680
j[8]=8E80 9080 9480 A180 A980 AC80 B180 B480 B880 BA80 BB80 B980
j[9]=A780 AD80 B780 C680 D180 D680 DC80 DE80 DD80 D480 D080 CA80
j[A]=B480 B880 BF80 CB80 D380 D980 E180 E080 DF80 D980 D480 D080
j[B]=B480 B980 BE80 CA80 D380 D980 DB80 DD80 DD80 D780 D580 D080
l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[1]=37 37 37 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 31
l[2]=37 37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 31 31 31 31 31
l[3]=37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 31 37 37 37 37 37
l[4]=37 37 2C 2C 2C 2C 2C 37 37 37 37 37
l[5]=37 37 31 31 31 31 31 37 47 55 58 58
l[6]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 4F 4F 55 55 55
l[7]=5C 5C 66 66 66 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C
l[8]=5C 5C 5C 63 66 70 78 78 78 78 81 87
l[9]=6B 6B 6B 6B 78 78 78 81 81 87 8A 8D
l[A]=6B 6B 6B 78 78 81 81 81 81 87 87 8D
l[B]=78 78 78 78 78 81 81 87 87 8A 8D 8D
n[0]=00 3C 3C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C
n[1]=64 3C 58 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[2]=64 30 64 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[3]=64 64 8C F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[4]=50 50 A0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0 F0
n[5]=64 64 DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC
n[6]=64 78 A0 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8
n[7]=64 8C 8C B4 B4 B4 A8 A8 A8 A8 B4 B4
n[8]=58 68 A0 B4 B4 A0 8C 88 90 A0 A0 A0
n[9]=50 50 8C 98 8C 84 74 74 78 8C 8C 8C
n[A]=3C 3C 50 78 78 6C 68 68 70 7C 80 84
n[B]=28 30 50 64 58 58 58 5C 70 78 80 80
k[0]=1E 28 32 41 50 5A 64 82 96 B4 D2 E6
r[0]=07 0A 11 17 1E 25 2B 30 37 3E 43 49
h[0]=02 04 01 08 10 20 40 80
h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
h[2]=68 48 30 00 00 00 00 00
b[0]=28 37 46 5A 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 64
t[0]=66 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF