MembersPage/AutoVeltiosis (2010-03-16 18:33:40)

I use VEMS V3.6 on my dragcar powered by a cbr1100xx engine. Until now the engine was running on four carburetors plus nitrous and the performance was very good (8.7sec@402m). I turned to fuel injection and VEMS in order to use all the extra racing features (like launch control, shift cut, etc) and be able to have a more precise engine control.

SOFT/FIRM

In the past (1.0.73 firmware ?) I was using MegaTune software with no problem.

At the moment I use the VemsTune0.10.20(2010.03.08) and the firmware uploaded on VEMS V3.6 is 1.1.67. Since I changed Soft/Firm I have problems with the inj/ign outputs. I have tried several different Soft/Firm with the same results.


TRIGGER

I use the original trigger wheel and VR sensor of the cbr1100xx with no problem. The cbr1100xx (carburated model) uses a 9teeth trigger wheel with one big missing tooth (later injection model had a 12teeth trigger wheel with no missing teeth).

cbr1100_trigger.jpg

Seems to be a 12-3 pattern (toothwidth=30 degrees).

Unfortunately this is not supported with 1.1.x firmware, you can only use N-2 or N-1 pattern as set in the primary trigger options. You might need to use 1.0.x firmware for now with this pattern.

The following Trigger Setting were tested as long as I use the Megatune and were proven to work fine with 1.0.x firmware. It's not a MegaTune / VemsTune issue. It's an 1.0.x / 1.1.x issue. 1.1.x times from the last possible tooth.

The closest you could go with 1.1.x is N-2 with toothcount=10 (but even that unlikely to work, and extremely unlikely to work well). With N-2 firmware would decide to trig/start dwell from 0..9 (whatever is last) but only 0..8 tooth exist here, so at certain RPM/load it would wait indefinitely for nonexistant tooth, (until reboot).

Trigger Edge: Rissing

Trigger Type: Missingtooth

Missing Tooth Type: N-1

Special Trigger Type: Normal

TDC After The Trigger: 45.0

Number Of Teeth On Wheel: 9

First Trigger Tooth: 1

Next Trigger Tooth: 6

Filtering: Disabled

Advanced Filtering: Disabled

The cbr1100xx uses 4 injectors firing in pairs. injector1 and injector4 fire together. Also injector2 and injector3 fire together.

The ignition is DUMMY type. The ignition outputs are set to 01..00 and invert driver output and dual output mode are disabled. One coil is nonnected on ec36-pin34, the other one is connected on ec36-pin36.

MCT (through terminal) gives the following:

j[0]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[1]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[2]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[3]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[4]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[5]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[6]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[7]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[8]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[9]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[A]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[B]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[C]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[D]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[r]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

j[k]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

l[0]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

l[1]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

l[2]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

l[3]=80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00

l[4]=80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

l[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

l[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

l[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

l[r]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

l[k]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[0]=80 00 80 00 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 00

n[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[8]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[9]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[A]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[B]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

n[r]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 06

n[k]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

h[0]=09 06 00 00 00 00 00 00

h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

h[2]=20 30 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[0]=46 50 5A 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[1]=00 00 00 00 26 36 06 06 06 06 06 06

y[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[3]=00 00 00 00 30 20 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 06 00 00

y[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[7]=20 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[8]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[9]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[A]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[B]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[r]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

y[k]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

b[0]=00 00 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14

b[1]=14 14 00 00 20 30 00 10 20 30 FF FF

b[2]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[3]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[4]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[5]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[6]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[7]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[8]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[9]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

b[A]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 08 0F

b[B]=14 1E 28 32 3C 46 50 5A 64 6E FF FF

b[r]=FF FF 00 02 05 0A 0F 14 1E 28 32 3C

t[0]=00 00 20 30 00 00 00 00

e[0]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

e[1]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

e[2]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

e[3]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

e[4]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

e[5]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

e[6]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

e[7]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

e[r]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

e[k]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

i[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

i[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

i[2]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

i[3]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

i[4]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

i[5]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

i[6]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

i[7]=81 00 81 00 81 00 00 00

i[r]=00 00 81 00 81 00 81 00

i[k]=81 00 00 00 00 00 81 00

w[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[r]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

w[k]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

s[0]=00 00 80 00 80 80 00 80

s[1]=00 00 80 80 00 80 80 00

The problem is that at the moment the ignition outputs are not working correct (there is no electronic problem). Both ignition outputs fire together at TDC.

Also the injector Group1 is not funtioning through the test button (VemsTune).

I have also uploaded v3.3_n002710-2010.03.16-10.28.59.vemscfg (file is saved in FileArea@AutoVeltiosis).