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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: HELP HELP HELP!!!!!! Trouble with new firmware and no backup - my disk was destroyed. Running Audi v8 with c.o.p. and no cam symc - wasted spark. Upgraded v.23 to v.36 and now my cylinders are filling with fuel.. it seems like only 4 cylinders were firing. I uploaded a custom config by Jorgen and my old working tables. I noticed that megatune did not recognize that I should be using DUAL-OUT and INVERT OUPUT. I changed these in megatune and uploaded only that megatune page to the ECU... So I get nothing but blown ingition fuses even though I've removed the injector fuses and let the car sit over night. Now the plugs are out so the cylinders can dry. Any ideas? Here are my current config and tables for version .36: primep=00 primep_temp_scaling=40 cwl=64 cwh=1E cranking_thres=02 awev=14 awev_temp_scaling=33 awec=FF warmup_clt_range[0]=00 warmup_clt_range[1]=15 warmup_clt_range[2]=28 warmup_clt_range[3]=3C warmup_clt_range[4]=50 warmup_clt_range[5]=64 warmup_clt_range[6]=78 warmup_clt_range[7]=8C warmup_clt_range[8]=AA warmup_clt_range[9]=C8 warmup_clt[0]=A0 warmup_clt[1]=A0 warmup_clt[2]=A0 warmup_clt[3]=A0 warmup_clt[4]=A0 warmup_clt[5]=96 warmup_clt[6]=8C warmup_clt[7]=87 warmup_clt[8]=7D warmup_clt[9]=64 warmup_rpm_scale=63 req_fuel=5F divider=01 alternate=17 injopen=0D battfac=10 kpafac=7D kpaoffs=72 injocfuel=26 injrampup_battfac=FA injpwm=FF injpwmt=FF injpwm6=00 rpmk[0]=05 rpmk[1]=DC tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00 tpsdotrate[0]=05 tpsdotrate[1]=0E tpsdotrate[2]=20 tpsdotrate[3]=40 tpsaq[0]=08 tpsaq[1]=12 tpsaq[2]=17 tpsaq[3]=1B als_cut_mintps=FF tpsasync=00 acmult=64 tpsacold=05 launch_enrich=FF launch_retard=FF overrun_fuelcut=18 overrun_fuelresume=16 rev_limit=41 airden_ignore=00 config11=70 config12=30 config13=02 batt_cal=A4 fastidle=80 als_max_cut=00 dbaro=0C tps_low=14 tps_high=F0 fan_temp=F3 fan_hyst=09 fan_channel=FF iac_step_seq=C9 iac_conf=10 iac_max_steps=00 iac_tps_thres=00 iac_cold_idle_temp=48 iac_warm_idle_temp=48 iac_cold_rpm=00 iac_warm_rpm=00 iac_cold_start_pos=00 iac_warm_start_pos=00 iac_afterstart_rpm=00 iac_afterstart_duration=00 iac_speed=07 iac_kp=25 iac_ki=10 iac_kd=30 launch_rpm=14 iac_integral_limit_dec=33 iac_integral_limit_inc=E4 iac_integral_deadband=0A iac_deadband=FE als_cut_maxtps=00 iac_overclose_interval=FF iac_ref_pos[0]=00 iac_ref_pos[1]=00 iac_ref_pos[2]=00 iac_ref_pos[3]=00 iac_ref_pos[4]=00 iac_ref_pos[5]=00 iac_ref_pos[6]=00 iac_ref_pos[7]=00 iac_ref_pos[8]=00 iac_ref_pos[9]=00 iac_sol_channel=0F iac_ign_slope=FF softrpm_range=4B iac_ign_advance_limit=10 iac_ign_retard_limit=18 iac_ign_threshold=08 ego_conf=06 ego_lag=01 ego_coolant=00 ego_maxtps=FF ego_maxmap=FF ego_minrpm=05 ego_maxrpm=50 ego_warmup=DC ego_lean_limit=1A ego_rich_limit=1A ego_pid_kp=25 als_enrich=FF ego_delta=03 ego_target=19 ego_pid_window=FF wbo2_warmup_ramp=9C als_react_tps=00 wbo2_abs_limit=E4 wbo2_limit_maxt=A0 wbo2_fallback=60 wbo2_retry_t=06 wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA wbo2_edgetime_min=50 wbo2_ri_target=96 wbo2_nernstdc_target=9C wbo2_pump_pw_zero=65 wbo2_calibration=C6 wbo2_heater_pid_kp=45 wbo2_heater_pid_ki=11 wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=81 wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15 wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00 wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=FF wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80 knock_conf=01 knock_sampling_window=F2 knock1_frequency=29 knock1_gain=40 knock1_integrator=14 knock2_frequency=29 knock2_gain=40 knock2_integrator=14 knock_threshold=00 knock_noise_scale=00 knock_max_retard=00 knock_default_retard=00 knock_retard_step=00 knock_retard_delay=00 knock_advance_step=00 knock_advance_delay=00 knock_minrpm=00 knock_maxrpm=00 ve_learn_coolant=BD ve_learn_max_power=FF ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E ve_learn_ego_scale=43 ve_learn_min_weight=AC ve_learn_speed=FF ve_learn_limit=FF ve_learn_conf=00 lcd_c0=F8 lcd_delay=FF lcd_backlight=FF kpa_conf=21 ign_balance=00 als_retard_mintps=FF als_retard_maxtps=00 lcd_default_view=00 primary_trigger=D1 secondary_trigger=02 tooth_wheel=3A trigger_tooth=02 another_trigger_tooth=0F crank_minper=7D tooth_wheel_twidth1=02 tooth_wheel_twidth2=06 cam_sync_r_edge_phase=FF cam_sync_f_edge_phase=FF reset_engphase_after=F0 ign_tdcdelay=64 ign_dwell14=1E ign_dwell6=44 ign_crank_advance=30 ign_out=70 ignchmax=03 engine_off_delay=08 pump_on_mintime=04 fuelpump_channel=57 inj_stage2_rate=00 inj_stage2_start_tps=00 inj_stage2_start_map=00 als_deact_rpm=FF als_deact_time=01 als_deact_egt=00 als_retard=00 als_rev_limit=40 misc1out_minrpm=0A misc1out_maxrpm=1E misc1out_mintps=40 misc1out_maxtps=FF misc1out_minmap=DE misc1out_maxmap=FF misc1out_channel=0F misc2out_minrpm=FF misc2out_maxrpm=FF misc2out_mintps=FF misc2out_maxtps=FF misc2out_minmap=F0 misc2out_maxmap=FF misc2out_channel=0F act_wot_rpm=FF act_wot_channel=2E act_rpm_rpm=FF act_rpm_channel=FF egt1_cal=EC als_tks_channel=5F boost_conf=00 boost_targetoffs=00 boost_minpressure=FF boost_pid_kp=20 boost_pid_ki=80 boost_pid_kd=01 boost_pid_ilimit=FF boost_channel=FF water_pump_temp=00 hybrid_rpm_a=00 hybrid_rpm_m=00 water_pump_hyst=00 water_pump_channel=FF toothrel_normal=ED toothrel_missing=EA fuelcut_min_kpa=00 fuelcut_max_kpa=FF tach_channel=EF tach_divider=FE shiftcut_conf=00 shiftcut_channel=FF shiftcut_time=01 softrpm_rpm=FF j[0]=587F 587F 587F 587F 617F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F j[1]=647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F 647F j[2]=787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F 787F j[3]=857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F 857F j[4]=8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F 8A7F j[5]=8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F 8D7F j[6]=9E7F 9E7F 9F7F 9F7F 9F7F 9F7F 9F7F 9E7F 9E7F 9E7F 9E7F 9C7F j[7]=A67F A67F A67F A67F A87F A67F A67F A67F A67F A67F A47F A47F j[8]=AD7F AD7F AF7F AF7F AF7F AF7F AF7F AD7F AD7F AD7F AB7F AA7F j[9]=B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F B67F j[A]=CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F j[B]=CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F CD7F l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[1]=39 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[2]=40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 l[3]=4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F l[4]=55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 l[5]=66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 l[6]=66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 l[7]=6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B l[8]=6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B l[9]=6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B l[A]=6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B l[B]=6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B 6B n[0]=30 30 50 64 78 84 8C 94 94 94 94 94 n[1]=30 30 54 64 74 84 8C 90 90 90 90 90 n[2]=30 30 4C 60 70 80 88 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C n[3]=34 30 48 5C 68 6C 80 80 80 80 80 80 n[4]=38 30 44 58 70 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C n[5]=3C 30 40 54 6C 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 n[6]=3C 30 3C 50 58 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 n[7]=3C 30 3C 4C 54 58 58 58 58 58 58 58 n[8]=3C 30 3C 48 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 n[9]=38 30 30 38 40 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 n[A]=38 30 28 30 38 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 n[B]=38 30 28 30 30 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 k[0]=14 1E 32 46 5A 66 78 8C A0 B4 C8 FA r[0]=06 0B 10 16 1C 22 28 2E 34 3A 40 46 h[0]=02 40 04 20 80 08 10 01 h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 h[2]=07 05 03 01 07 05 03 01 b[0]=28 30 38 40 48 50 58 60 FF FF FF FF t[0]=21 40 60 80 A0 C0 E0 FF ******* Ignition page for MembersPage/BenNesbitt *1997 Audi ABZ 4.2 liter 32valve V8 *firing order: 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2 17oct spark map as tweaked by VE autotune - at least I did not change the values myself and these are not what I entered ;] It's extremely unlikely that VE autotune would change your ignition advance table. Even if it would change (by an error that hasn't been experienced by others), guess the chance to get such a reasonable table as result. http://www.ubernugen.com/vems/17octsparkmap1.jpg If looking at the fire order: 1548´6372 Put a line break in the middle and you have the cylinders that fire at the same time in each column. 1 5 4 8 6 3 7 2 Where I suggest that the coils are wired like this: Coil ECU pin 1 35 6 33 5 34 3 36 4 11 7 12 8 24 2 10 http://www.ubernugen.com/vems/h%5b2%5dtable28sept.jpg The above settings is backwards, you want them filled in like this: 0 Drive_07 1 Drive_05 2 Drive_03 3 Drive_01 4 Drive_07 5 Drive_05 6 Drive_03 7 Drive_01 http://www.ubernugen.com/vems/igset28sept.jpg The dwell is a bit on the high side, 1.8-2mS is probably enough for your coils. 'Coil chargetimie added at 6v' seem fine. http://www.ubernugen.com/vems/trigset28sept.jpg This will probably have to be fine tuned with a timing light. Change 'TDC After trigger(deg)' until the actual and commanded timing is the same. Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.