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I would like to install a Genboard v3.3 to the following car:

Audi S2 coupe quattro 2.2 5 cyl 20v 3B

This 5cyl needs InputTrigger/AudiTrigger see "Configuration" info, your config does not comply !


TODO needed for debug

While the trigger is special, the other sensors should be no problem at all.

My V3.3 include:

The car use the absolutely factory sensors and accessory but the air filter's house was removed.

I want to make a street racing car from above.

Project to follow:

My plans:

If I want to use the factory airmass sensor too,where can I connect this? Since you have onboard MAP, EC18pin6 (see WebShop assembled controller) is a custom analog input that you might use for airmass sensor (not used by default, just logged in MegaTune). The knock input cannot measure the airmass sensor's signal.

Please check my planned pinout and correct it if necessary.

EC36

1 TPS sign.

2-IAT 450-650 ohm/in 20C

3- fast-idle small solenoid or relay (or any low-current output, such as shiftlight). EC36pin3 is a 350mA output, see GenBoard/Manual/DigitalOut/Table. You might want to use the powerful injector outputs first (don't forget to adjust h[0]=.. entries) and use the low-current outputs if you run out of injector outputs. Care is needed to not overload outputs.

4-

5-GND5

6-

7-Injector1 14.5 ohm/in 20C

8-Injector3

9-Injector5

10-

11-

12-

13-Sec.trig HALL 1 window camtooth

14-CLT 2.1-2.9kohm/in 20C

15-TODO: remove Fuel pump relay from here

16-

17-TODO: move fuel pump relay to here

18-BOOST solenoid

19-Injector2

20-Injector4

21-GND5

22-GND5

23-Inj.flyback injector common (+12V)

24-

25-Vbatt 15+

26-GND ecu and sign,knock

27-Primary trigger 135 cranktooth VR

28-5V to sensors /to TPS maybe ????

29-

30-

31-

32-GND5

33-

34-

35-ignition coil. Ign-Channel0 ( GenBoard/Manual/DigitalOut/Table )

36-

WebShop assembled controller description says channel3=EC36pin36 and channel5=EC36pin12 are logic-level drive. Useful for active coils that have the driver stage inside. For traditional dumb coil, you want to use one of the 6 power (non-logiclevel) ignition outputs. h[2]=.. (ignition sequence) must be adjusted for the chosen output in any case.

EC18

1

2-Knock1

3-

4-

5-

6-

7-WBO2 pump-

8-

9-WBO2 pump+

10-

11-

12-Sec trigger 1 Cranktooth VR. Robin said on phone earlier that he swapped crankhome VR (as he was supposed to), actually at the firewall connector (if I remember right). Robin, confirm here that it is the case indeed.

13-WBO2 nernst cell

14-Comm RS232 See WebShop, assembled controller

15-Comm RS232

16- 1-wire is a network connection. Not used (unless for [i-button]). A free connection (if you don't solder the DS2480B chip) - use for whatever you like.

17-

18-WBO2 heater-

DO NOT forget to read the warning of the provided resckue-kit paper, about GND5, flyback, and fuses.


Please link to the docs you're trying to use. See MegaTune page for (simple unzip) install.

The v3.3 has max232, so a standard RS232 port is needed. See GenBoard/Manual/CommHardware

If unsure about MegaTune setup / compatibility, in 9600,8n1 say

Man mll mcd mct bye

without spaces. mll prints LCD content of active page (even if no LCD connected), mcd and mct prints config and tables. bye (note: everything is case sensitive) goes back to MegaTune compatible mode. Since MegaTune is much simpler to use, you don't need to learn GenBoard/MenuSystem, but if you like:

But 1.0.19 will NOT work with the InputTrigger/AudiTrigger , since it is a new development.


megaloq viewer:

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=LogAnalysis

you can also collect some infos from:

http://www.msefi.com/index.php


Trigger signal debugging

The from genboard I can see the following signals:

We have not Rpm signals and triggerlog on megatune and brayterm and not started the engine.

The signals look suitable. The problem was boiled p259 chip, likely operated with missing GND or GND5.


Testing on the bench

Suggestions:


I was changed the config and fuel pump out, invert crankhome signal,but the logging for rpm signal very confusing.Sure the engine did not starting.

Log file and the last config under http://www.vems.hu/files/Robin/

I use the original 1 audi coil and distributor,wich setup can I use?Dummy or edis,Chanel logic or no?

The log seems good:

(formatted with ./auditrigger_logformatter 27 < /tmp/Robin/terminal.log )

x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  _  
x  P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 9d 
9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 
81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 9d 
9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 
81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 9d 
9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 
81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 9d 
9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 
81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 9d 
9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 
_  81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 
9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 
9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 
9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 
9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 9e 
9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 _  81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 
9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 
9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 
9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 
9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 9f 
9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 _  81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 
9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 
9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 
9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 
9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 a0 
9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 _  81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 
a0 9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 
85 84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 
a0 9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 
85 84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 
a0 9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 
85 84 83 82 81 P  b5 b4 b3 b2 b1 b0 af ae ad ac ab aa a9 a8 a7 a6 a5 a4 a3 a2 a1 
a0 9f 9e 9d 9c 9b 9a 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8f 8e 8d 8c 8b 8a 89 88 87 86 

Check the W.. (wheel_error counter) on LCD page 1 (mlp01).

Also, check your fuel settings, TPS, overrun fuelcut, fuelcut_min_kpa, etc..

Your triggerlog seems good:

86 85 84 83 82 0A 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE 
AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 
9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 
8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 B5 B4 
B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 
A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 
93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 
83 82 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA 
A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 
99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 
89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 
AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 
9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 
8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 
B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 
A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 
95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 
85 84 83 82 0A 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD 
AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 
9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 
8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 B5 B4 B3 
B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 
A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 
92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 
82 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 
A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 
98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 
88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF 
AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 
9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 8F 
8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 50 B5 
B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC AB AA A9 A8 A7 A6 A5 
A4 A3 A2 A1 A0 9F 9E 9D 9C 9B 9A 99 98 97 96 95 
94 93 92 91 90 8F 8E 8D 8C 8B 8A 89 88 87 86 85 
84 83 82 0A 81 50 B5 B4 B3 B2 B1 B0 AF AE AD AC 

I was check the system last and I'm depressed.

Solution:

I think vems not suitable for correct and safe uses for audi trigger configurations.It is not working yet. I don't know Miska how use this but it is very interesting.

comments: It is working and safe to use if everything is wired up properly, proven on at least 3 cars so far. Did you remember to swap polarity of the sectrig VR sensor? Couldn't see anything about that on this page. //Emil

  • Marcell
What????

Did not have only the ignition problem but I have the injection

absolutely bad.

The output stage is right but I don't have any time write to the internet all the time.

I made all connections and instructions that I read from Miska's pages.

Which type of ignition coil use Miska?

It's a good idea for you to start to ask for help in a sufficient way:

Other hints to try: