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So finally,after 1 year i decided to install the N75 WGFV,and control it via VEMS.

I know from MiskaPeippos page that i have to drive this with a free injector driver.So this will provide the negative voltage,and i should wire the other pin to ignition positive?

How to configure in Megatune? I have an almost bone stock AAN engine too,what PID settings worked best?

thanks,peter


After installing the mechanical parts and configured the ECU,i started a LLOOOONNGGG PID tuning session. I educated myself with the help of GRMracer (thanks a lot!).

Basially i used the method describer at wikipedia,tried Feros initial Boostconfig,nothing worked.after 2 hours of continous testing,i decided to make a basic test.With only P variable (ID zero) i should have a huge oscillation,while the desired target is beeing overshoot.Now that is what wont happen at all.I cant get more boost than 1 bar (200Kpa) with P only,which makes me wonder,is this really a PID control?

Please dont try to tell me what mechanical parts to check,the whole thing is allright,its a pure programming/controlling issue.

Every part of the system is STOCK,so no problems here.

I also tried to choose the best working PWM period.

with the lower (2-8),and only P max(200-255) waiting for oscillation nothing happened (max160-170kpa),and with 15msec perion and 200 P there was a slight oscillaton (200kpa + - 10kpa)

Note that the actual target was 230kpa,which was NEVER reached under the whole session.

Any suggestions are welcome, i made numerious log (10+).

http://www.vems.hu/filethingie.php?action=list&subdir=MembersPage/NanassyPeter/BC_logs

I will also try Miskas settings.


Dutycycle table suggestion

After trying to tune the current (1.0.36) firmwares PID BoostControl,i realized that is really a hard one.

Tried different methods and PID settings,but never got a really satisfying bahaviour.

Here my logs:

http://www.vems.hu/filethingie.php?action=list&subdir=MembersPage/NanassyPeter/BC_logs

Because every BIG ECU brands have openloop Turbo boost control,i suggest implementing this 'ASAP' to ours.

A 6X6 or 8X8 RPM / TPS or MAP (selectable) table would be fine,with loggable Dutycycle on WastegateFreqValve?.

We are at the start of the racing season,and we cant use the turbo control function,that is a really big problem.

//pnanassy


After some more testing i found the roots of the problem:looks like the valve cannot do all the 0-100% DC,it only wors good in a certain region.That is why i can achive a rocksolid 170 and 180 kpa boost (even with much stiffer WG spring).This means for me that when the WGFV must open less (0-50%) it control fine,but when more opening is needed it fails (say 50-100%).

When it has to bypass little amount of air (when choosing lower targets like 170kpa) it can do the job,but when more volume of air must be bypassed (higher boost target) it fails.

Note that i also added a restriction in the system (before it had a diam 2.5mm, now it has a 1.5mm diam)

here the new logs:

http://www.vems.hu/filethingie.php?action=list&subdir=MembersPage/NanassyPeter/BC_logs/Lower%20target